Plans for South DeKalb city taking shape

Posted by Dan Whisenhunt November 18, 2014
Members of Concerned Citizens for Cityhood for South DeKalb met at the public library in Clarkston on Monday, Nov. 17. Photo by Dan Whisenhunt

Members of Concerned Citizens for Cityhood for South DeKalb met at the public library in Clarkston on Monday, Nov. 17. Photo by Dan Whisenhunt

Throughout the discussion about creating new cities in north and central DeKalb County, there’s been one potential new city that’s flown beneath the radar.

But this city, which would encompass most of unincorporated South DeKalb County, would be the second largest in Georgia with nearly 300,000 residents. The proposed map would include everything in DeKalb south of U.S. 78 up to I-285, excluding a proposed city of Stonecrest, and everything south of Memorial Drive on the other side of 285.

This is the proposed map for a City of South DeKalb. Click to enlarge

This is the proposed map for a City of South DeKalb. Click to enlarge

Potential city names include:

– Candler City – Named for the major thoroughfare in south DeKalb

– Panola City – Named after another major thoroughfare

– Sky City- A reference to Atlanta’s dominance in transportation by air

-Haven- A reference to South DeKalb’s cultural diversity. “The county has also become a haven for African, Iraqi, and Latino asylum seekers,” a handout on the proposed city says.

– New Haven

– New Phoenix – A nod to a potential rebirth for South DeKalb

– Creek Hills – The handout says, “Most of DeKalb County was ceded from the Creek Indians on Jan. 8, 1821.”

– New Africa City – “The population is predominantly Black and originally comes from Africa,” one of the handouts notes

– New DeKalb – Another nod to a rebirth of South DeKalb

– Freedom City – “Freedom from the shackles that bind us,” the handout says.

The city doesn’t have an official name, but it does have advocates. Concerned Citizens for Cityhood for South DeKalb has about eight members on its board and is working on a feasibility study for the city.

A group of 10 people, mostly CCCSD board members met at the public library in Clarkston on Monday, Nov. 17. The turnout was lower than expected because the location wasn’t settled until recently. There was also a lack of publicity, and a lack of media attention in general about the South DeKalb cityhood movement.

CCCSD President Kathryn Rice said that her group formed in June of 2014 and is a little late to the party in comparison with the movements behind LaVista Hills, formerly Lakeside and Briarcliff, and Tucker. She said that’s part of the reason news about the movement has been scarce, though the potential for a new South DeKalb city has been discussed in local meetings about annexation.

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“I think because we started late, we were doing our analysis and determining what was the best option to take, and setting up the structure once we decided we needed to take action,” Rice said. “The major newspapers are the ones who have not focused or learned about this. I think in South DeKalb the word is starting to get out more and more.”

Decaturish was the only media in attendance at Monday’s meeting. There was also a representative from the Forrest Hills neighborhood, Dawn Smith. Forrest Hills is currently considering annexation into Avondale Estates. Smith said she was there to learn more about the potential new city so she could share that information with the neighborhood. There was also a representative from the Stonecrest cityhood movement.

CCCSD members said that Avondale’s annexation plans motivated them to act because it included property close to South DeKalb. They said they felt vulnerable to cities cherry picking nicer commercial properties while leaving the rest of South DeKalb’s residents stuck supporting DeKalb County’s debt, specifically its legacy of pensions.

The new cities that have formed, like Dunwoody and Brookhaven, aren’t required to support those pensions, something state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver mentioned during a recent interview. If the rest of DeKalb County incorporates, that could potentially shift the debt burden onto South DeKalb residents. CCCSD estimates the costs for unincorporated residents could increase from $91 per person to $141 per person.

Rice said UGA’s Carl Vinson Institute of Government is conducting a feasibility study, but she suspects that the proposed city won’t have enough commercial property to be considered “economically viable.”

“Homes in South DeKalb have been so devalued … it has made feasibility a lot more difficult, because we don’t have as much commercial development,” Rice said. “I can’t say we will pass the feasibility study.”

Even so, cityhood something Rice and other members of CCCSD think is worth going after, precisely because there’s a lack of economic development in their part of the county.

“(Our movement) is geared primarily toward economic development and being under the structure of the county inhibits the focus that we need to have,” Rice said. “There’s no one focusing and forcing economic development in South DeKalb.”

CCCSD Secretary Sandy Johnson said the economic realities of living in South DeKalb are a constant inconvenience.

“I can’t buy ink for my printer in my home office anywhere in South DeKalb,” Johnson said.

CCCSD Vice President Isaac Finley said economic development is the “seed” for South DeKalb and, “We’re taking it and planting it in the soil of cityhood.”

The group also believes the area has some distinct economic advantages. It’s closer to the airport, for one. It’s also served by MARTA. A new city would make it possible for residents to elect a mayor, an elected official whose sole focus is serving South DeKalb residents.

“If you’ve got 290,000 people, you’ve got a voice,” Johnson said.

Rice said South DeKalb city would take on three services to start: parks and recreation, zoning and code enforcement.

“However we anticipate taking on others as we assess the situation and are able to handle it financially,” Rice said. “Our aim is to be fiscally conservative, to be fiscally sound.”

She said there isn’t a South DeKalb city bill yet, but said state Rep. Rahn Mayo, D-Decatur, is supportive of the feasibility study.

So would a legislator sponsor a cityhood bill for South DeKalb, even if the Carl Vinson study doesn’t deem it economically viable?

“We’ll see,” Rice said.

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  • Virginia

    Belvedere Park residents do not want to be included in this “South DeKalb” feasibility study and definitely not this “City of South DeKalb”. We are an in-town neighborhood and do not want to be included in this predominately outside of the perimeter City. Our neighborhood is already seeing great improvement and we know we will have a brighter future being either incorporated by an existing established City nearby or by creating our own in-town City. Please exclude us from these plans.

    • Max Andrews

      I certainly don’t speak for all Belvedere Park residents, but I personally agree; however, I don’t know how we could ever convince AE or Decatur to annex us. Perhaps Belvedere Park should consider incorporating. I no absolutely nothing about the process or requirements, but I think it’s an interesting concept.

      I’m also curious what happens to the referenced pension costs if the entire county incorporates into cities. Who is responsible for paying the pensions of these people who earned these benefits? I’m not clear on how the county could not still tax its residents for that.

      • blackbird13

        It doesn’t seem right or fair that new cities don’t have to support legacy costs. There should at least be some formula that requires tax support for those costs for a certain amount of time after incorporation.

    • Beth

      Virginia, is there a council or committee for Belvedere Park? How can we get involved in this?

    • Jonathan

      Agreed, as a resident of Belvedere Park I definitely don’t want to be City of South Dekalb!

  • No.

    The cities of Pine Lake and Stone Mountain, enclosed?

    No. This will not happen.

    • Robert Butera

      Houston has several examples of small cities (size of PL or StMt) surrounded by the city. They differentiate themselves with zoning and “local character.” Some are isolated islands of affluence (Pine Point Village, West U) others, less so.

      I am surprised that in all the annexation discussion, I have seen little to no discussion (or least press coverage) of PL, Clarkston, or StMt. Did they assume it just wouldn’t happen in their part of the county? Or are those cities just keeping their plans under wraps?

  • DSP

    Greenstone is another proposed name, but the formatting on the flyer with all the proposed names was a little off. Thank you for taking the time to attend the meeting yesterday.

  • Joseph

    I live in the Drayton Woods neighborhood off of Idlewood. I and most of my neighbors consider ourselves part of Tucker and hope to remain as such.

  • Ron

    This is the most silly cityhood proposal I have seen to date in the metro area. As stated in the article, this new city would become the “second largest (city) in Georgia”… meaning larger than Augusta, larger than Macon, larger than Savannah!!

    You do NOT form a city that cannot self-sustain that is already larger than every other city in GA, without the property capabilities to run an enormous machine. Every other city starts small, creates a focus area, builds on their capacity, and works their way up to becoming a larger city. This plan literally proposes to surround other existing smaller cities and intentionally lock them from being able to strategically grow their own cities any larger. I don’t see how you will receive anyone’s support!

    My suggestion to the CCCSD would be stop the non-sense of attempting to create the 2nd largest mega-city in Georgia, and instead truly help your neighbors, citizens and/or constituents by considering multiple smaller city pockets. Each pocket city area can then elect officials to help their local area thrive. Then… we create a Development Authority that can work between all the cities of South Dekalb and find collaborative ways to entice new developments and businesses to the SD area. For example, a new industrial development in a neighboring city may not directly give our city funds, but the residual monetary gains of the workers in the area, and therefore shopping, etc. will help everyone in the area.

    We do NOT need to be one giant city in order to help raise a growth spurt for South Dekalb, we simply need to work together as a community to help each other grow. There is wisdom to the reasons behind the CCCSD cityhood movement, but I fear this is going about it all wrong and has NO CHANCE of survival.

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